Dating fender amp serial
Dating Fender Tube Amps By Serial Number, Part 2 by Greg Gagliano Copyright 1997, 20th Century Guitar Magazine.It's been about 6 months since Part 1 of this series was printed so I thought it would be a good time to give an update on the Fender amp research that I am doing along with Devin Riebe and Greg Huntington.
only Fender amps, and single handedly has submitted well over 250 very complete sets of data.Preliminary results show that we're on the right track.Here's a couple of examples using the tweed Deluxe (model 5E3) and the Super Reverb/Bandmaster Reverb. Model Year D05108 Deluxe 1958 D05160 Deluxe 1958 D06528 Deluxe 1958 D07036 Deluxe 1959 D07115 Deluxe 1959 D07418 Deluxe 1959 D08325 Deluxe 1959 D08913 Deluxe 1959 D09014 Deluxe 1959 D09338 Deluxe 1960 D09399 Deluxe 1960 D09524 Deluxe 1960 A27769 Super Reverb 1967 A27796 Super Reverb 1967 A29591 Super Reverb 1968 A31057 Super Reverb 1968 A31079 Bandmaster Reverb 1968 A32839 Super Reverb 1968 A32841 Super Reverb 1968 A34448 Super Reverb 1968 A37667 Super Reverb 1969 A37949 Bandmaster Reverb 1969 A40130 Bandmaster Reverb 1969 A41569 Super Reverb 1969 So, with the knowledge gained thus far, we feel that Fender tube amps can be dated by serial number.Dating Fender Tube Amps by Serial Number, Part I by Greg Gagliano Copyright 1997, 20th Century Guitar Magazine. Well, we'll get to good parts, but first a little background information is in order.After reading Teagle and Sprung's excellent Fender amp book, I took them up on their challenge that maybe someday someone will compile enough serial numbers so that Fender amps can be dated that way. I contacted several Fenders collectors and dealers who were kind enough to supply me with data.If anyone has an amp with a "PA" stamp, please let us know.
Still, I wouldn't be too quick to just glance at that tube chart and accept an "OA" as a January 1965 amp.
I turned to the Internet to do some more networking which resulted in a major turn of events as I met two individuals who have become instrumental partners in this project: Greg Huntington and Devin Riebe.
Greg is a long time Fender collector who is very knowledgeable not only in the details, but in the circuitry as well.
We combined all of our information into a computerized database for this project and for the past 18 months have been slowly (sadly, very slowly) gathering information that we collect ourselves as well as from other people. What we need is the following: 1) Model name 2) Model number on the tube chart 3) Date code letters on the tube chart 4) Speaker codes (if speaker is original) 5) Transformer codes (if the amp doesn't have date codes on the tube chart) 6) Cosmetic features (flat/raised logo, tweed/tolex, blackface/silverface, rough/ smooth blond tolex, white/skirted knobs, TV-front/wide-panel, etc.) One very interesting and very important factoid has surfaced regarding the date code letters on the tube chart.
In the fall of 1965, Fender switched from stamping these numbers in black ink, to dark green ink.
The 4x10 Bassman used the prefix "BM" while the piggyback Bassman used the prefix "BP." The reverb units have the prefix "R." In addition, the tweed Super, Pro and Bandmaster sometimes have the prefix "S" in the serial number.